Fix Your Xbox 360 Freeze Problems

P1010029Last Friday, I bought an Xbox 360 at my local K-Mart. It was probably a mistake getting it from K-Mart, but I sort of decided to buy it on the spot, didn’t really put much thought into it. After getting my Xbox 360 out of it’s box and all hooked up, I started wishing I had made the purchase directly from Microsoft instead. All is fine and well now, but I had nothing but problems for a few hours after setting the Xbox 360 up.

Right off the bat, I had three red lights on the Ring of Light. Not good. I followed the steps Microsoft suggests, after unplugging and re-plugging everything to the power supply, I finally got a green light and the Xbox 360 booted.

At this point, I did the initial configuration on the Xbox 360. I setup my profile and just started playing Need For Speed: Carbon. That didn’t last long though, the 360 started freezing up every minute or two. I kept rebooting it, hoping for a better result, but nothing.

P1010027After a few reboots, and barely getting a profile created in Need For Speed, I was presented with the error seen to the left. Click the image to make it bigger, sorry for the shitty picture. My heart really sunk at that point, the description of the E71 error message is rather disappointing: “E71: possibly a dashboard update error, there is no solution at present the console must be sent back to MS for repair.” There’s a nice post over at the xbox-scene forums that covers error codes and what to do about them. After finding the meaning of the E71 error message, I set out getting my Xbox 360 on my network. I was hoping a network connection would force the 360 to check for a dashboard update or something…anything.

Getting my Xbox 360 online wasn’t a problem, the hardest part was finding an ethernet cable long enough to go from my switch in the office to the living room. Once I had the network cable in the Xbox 360, I turned it on and it immediately said there was an update to download from Microsoft. It must have grabbed an IP really quickly from my DHCP server and checked for updates. Had I not had a DHCP server running, I may not have gotten the update. I don’t think I could have gotten into the dashboard to manually configure tcp/ip settings for the 360. It would have frozen up and that would have been it.

Anyway, the update downloaded and was installed, and my Xbox 360 was rebooted. After that, the 360 finally came up and my freeze problems were gone. So, if you’re having all sorts of flaky issues with your Xbox 360, try getting it on a network with an internet connection and see if it’ll download a dashboard update. I haven’t had any problems with stability since the initial update was downloaded, thank god! I really didn’t want to have to send my brand new Xbox 360 into Microsoft for servicing the day of purchasing it.

If you are experiencing problems like I was and this fix works for you, please let me know. This has probably been written about elsewhere, but unfortunately I couldn’t find it.

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575 thoughts on “Fix Your Xbox 360 Freeze Problems

  1. hi, try lifting the power supple using an empty box so there is maximum circulation on all 6 sides. it should work better than before

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  2. or if this does not work, remove the faceplate and side plates so that the console itself can be cooled, if this does not work, send it back to where you got it and swap or get your money back

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  3. Good suggestion Stuart. That little fix seems to have helped a lot of people out. However, the problem I was experiencing wasn’t caused by an overheating power supply. My Xbox 360 wouldn’t even finish booting into the dashboard. Applying the update seemed to have fixed it, and the 360 booted all the way up.

    I have yet to have any problems with my power supply. I’ve left my xbox 360 on for about 10 hours and it didn’t freeze. Probably 90% of that 10 hours was spent playing games, so the xbox wasn’t just sitting there idle.

    Good advice though, I should have included that info in my original post. The box idea is good, I personally wouldn’t be too fond of hanging my power supply up in the air, attached to a string. It’s a heavy power supply.

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  4. My Xbox 360 downloaded another update lastnight. Seemed to be a pretty big update, took a few minutes to download on my 5Mbps connection and took a bit to apply the update also. Xbox 360 came back up after the update with no problems. Although, my Xbox 360 sounds slightly different now after the update. It’s louder than it was before when it’s sitting idle…

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  6. ive had this same behavior right this second ive tried and got it going but now its doing it again when i put carbon in and ive got it going but i have already been online and had updates? and it works when it wonts to so no luck realy

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  7. Many people have freezing problems because their date/time settings are not correct. Try setting those up right. Reason is, is XBOX automatically tries to check for updates. For some reason, if the time is wrong, it’ll freeze your system. (Or so I hear) If your system continues to freeze, return it to the store, or call Microsoft. Don’t WAIT, the warranty is only 3 months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  8. Good advice Erick, on both the warranty and making sure the system clock is set to the corrett date/time. Would be interesting to confirm weather the date/time freeze and fix. Not sure if I wanna test it on my Xbox 360 though. Maybe I’ll try to get another Xbox 360 for Christmas. I need a test box.

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  9. Shaw, mine gave these errors right out of the box also. Do you have a home network? If so, plug an ethernet cable into your Xbox 360, and then plug the other end into your router or switch/hub.

    Once that’s done, the Xbox 360 should grab an IP address from your routers DHCP server (assuming your router has a DHCP server). At that point the Xbox 360 should check with MS for updates to the dashboard even before it gets to the point of freezing.

    Also, Shaw, try plugging your power supply directly into a wall outlet if it’s not already. That can help a lot.

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  10. im not sure if you got me email, but i plugged my xbox into my router and nothing happened, it still just froze up,im using my westel dsl modem/router, could you help me fix this pleaseee…thanks

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  11. My xbox wont even turn on because of them three red lights! I tried unplugging it from the mains and everything, i cant get on to see if there is any updates and when it does come on it freezes on the XBOX 360 logo! I don’t want to have to send my xbox away, can you give me any tips???

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  12. Also have 3 reds on the ROL, and green on the power supply. My unit has an April 2006 manufacturing date, waiting to hear from Microsoft tech support. Have tried to disconnect/reconnect without success.

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  13. Hi Guys,

    Sorry, no new tips right now. My xbox 360 has actually stopped working again. I popped Halo 2 in, it downloaded an update, and now I’m getting the 3 red lights on the ring of light. I plan on calling Microsoft tech support tomorrow (new years eve), provided they’re open.

    Luckily, the factory warranty on the Xbox 360 has been extended to 1 year. Previously it was only a 90 day warranty.

    I don’t expect Microsoft support will be of much help as I’ve already tried everything mentioned on their support and troubleshooting pages. I will post anything new I find here. H. Lis, was Microsoft support able to provide a fix for you over the phone/email?

    Supposedly, Microsoft has pretty quick turn around time for repairing xbox 360’s. I really hope that’s the case. Luckily I have a buddy’s 360 here at my house right now.

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  15. Thanks for the link Brandon. Hopefully MS will own up to their mistake here and attempt to make everything right. Although, I don’t see them issuing a recall since they’ve been receiving so many consoles for repair…

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  16. My 360 freezes when its ussualy loading or trying to load. i got my 360 for christmas(’06) and i didn’t have any problems then, although i did use DVD/ CD cleaner on a game called “GRAW” or ghost recon advanced warfighter and now it freezes. i don’t think the cleaner is the problem. o yea my uncle played for the “colts, chargers,and the cowboys, anyway the last team he played for was the colts. so he’s know well-known in some places like ebgames. in ebgames, he can trade in a game or system and get full credit off of the system or game. so i’m gonna ask to do that with ou 360 and games and ill let yall know iff i will get a new one THANKS FOR THE TIPS TYLER!! BYE!

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  17. ummm evryday my xbox freezes at least one or twice in a game but other then that its good anyone know how to stop it freezing?

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  18. Wait, i dont think im fully understanding this Post alltogether…

    This post does or does not fix the E71 error…

    cuzz its confusing, E71 CANNOT be fixed right?

    less u send it in?

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  19. Wassco, E71 officially can’t be fixed without sending your Xbox 360 in. However, after fooling around with my Xbox for a while (as described in this post) I got the E71 error to go away and haven’t seen it since.

    Really, the only sure way to fix your Xbox 360 is to send it in or exchange it for a new one. Have you experienced the 3 red lights on the Ring Of Light (ROL)?

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  20. mines too old for exchange, im gonna just wait and see if there ever is a bios flash option in the future, guess ill have to get another one ๐Ÿ™

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  21. 3 RED LIGHT PROBLEM :
    THIS MIGHT HELP IT DID FOR ME. TURN YOUR 360 ON AND WRAP IT UP IN 2 TOWELS SO IT GETS REALLY HOT. LEAVE IT FOR 20-30 MIN. THEN TURN IT OFF LET IT COOL DOWN FOR ABOUT 5 MIN. THEN TURN IT ON. IT FIXES THE BAD SOLDERING JOB MS DID.

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  22. Well, I just got a new 360 two days ago and it worked fine until earlier today it just froze in the middle of a GoW match, I shrugged it off as a common ‘once in a blue moon’ freeze and restarted it. I started to play GoW and where it flashes EPIC it froze in the middle of that. So I shrug it off and do it again, same thing over and over again, I have no other games to try on it, I assume its the 360 due that my GoW disc has absolutly no scratches or smudges on it. I have also been looking alot on sites… I have my power supply lifted in the air and my 360 alone on a table. I’ve been to the support site MS provides, and did what they said, and it helped as much as nothing. I think kicking the damned thing out my window and running it over with my car would be a better solution than what MS provides. They should not have to make people send them back in. I don’t think the dashboard has been updated due that it still freezes, but it does automatically update, so I can’t think what MS screwed up now…

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  23. I got my Xbox 360 for Christmas in 2006. Every once in a while, while playing NCAA a tab would come up saying the disk is unreadable and I had to turn off my system. The past couple days all my games have been freezing about every 10 minutes. It usually freezes while at a saving or loading screen, or while I’m in a campaign / career / dynasty. None of my games have scratches and my 360 has never been hit in any way.

    My date is still set to 11/22/05 for some reason. Would that have anything to do with it? How do I change the date?

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  24. hey guys….i’ve had my xbox 360 since jan 2006 and havent experienced any problems whatsoever with my console…and it is used a lot….also for cd’s and dvd’s. maybe i got lucky! u can change the date on the settings tab but if u have no storage device it wont store it (i think) and also if u have it connected to the internet (cable or wireless) then it automatically sets the date for you.

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  25. SUPERTOOL
    Jan 26th, 2007 at 8:42 pm
    3 RED LIGHT PROBLEM :
    THIS MIGHT HELP IT DID FOR ME. TURN YOUR 360 ON AND WRAP IT UP IN 2 TOWELS SO IT GETS REALLY HOT. LEAVE IT FOR 20-30 MIN. THEN TURN IT OFF LET IT COOL DOWN FOR ABOUT 5 MIN. THEN TURN IT ON. IT FIXES THE BAD SOLDERING JOB MS DID.

    it works when the 360 is really hot……

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  26. I kind of have the same problem discussed here. My 360 started out with one freeze during Oblivion when I first got it around Christmas time. Nothing really happened after that for a while, so I dismissed it as a glitch in the game, or one random system freeze. Hey, they all have them. However, as time went on it started doing it more and more frequently, and it was getting really annoying. Now, I can play a game/movie for about 5 minutes before everything freezes up, and I actually have to go over to the console to turn it off (controller does nothing). FYI, it even freezes with that game on the HDD, Hexic, i think it’s called. What’s funny about the last post is my 360 seems to work if I leave it on forever. It doesn’t freeze up if I leave it on for like 3 hours. So overheating is definitely not the problem. “more open air” won’t do ish for me, considering it’s in as open a space as it can be, and it hardly gets hot at all. Warm, but OMG overheating hot. Power supply same thing. I am not about to wrap it up in towels, and leave it on for a half hour though. Scares me. @ Neal, I have noticed that the games are jumpy when the time/date is not correct, it’s never frozen because of that. For instance, in Madden 07, when they show you the defense getting ready, it freezes for a second, but the whole system doesn’t freeze up. You can try going into the console settings in the dashboard, and change it, but I don’t think that’s your problem. However, you’ll be surprised at how smooth everything is running, if it’s always been wrong. I downloaded the update, didn’t do anything. If you don’t have a home network, you can plug the 360 directly into your modem to get the update, however, I doubt it will do anything. I’ve also never gotten the E71 message, or the rings of light. I personally just think it’s a junk part that MS uses, and whatever it is, they need to stop using it. The troubleshooting tips on the website are a joke, and did nothing for me. I am sending it in for repair, kind of mad because I’ve had my original XBOX for 4 years without any issues. I guess if MS fixes it properly, and quickly, no harm, no foul.

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  27. Oh, and I agree that they shouldn’t make you send them back in. I mean, they’re sending me a box, so I can send it UPS, or whatever they use, so it can get there, so they can fix it, so they can send it back. They say it will only take 10 days, but it’s already been 3, and it’s a Saturday. Also, can’t MS find some customer service reps that speak clear English, when I’m calling from America? I could hardly understand the guy speaking, and he could hardly understand me.

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  28. I sent my 360 back for the *second* time, so don’t get your hopes up. It came back after repairs a few months back and it appears they did nothing except wrap it up upon arrival and ship it right back out. I hope they aren’t doing the same thing this time after simply reseting the cache — a trick everyone now knows about. Unfortunately, that might be the case since they shipped a package back my way the same day they received my delivery. Will update either way once it’s back and has been played for a while.

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  29. this is my third xbox360 and i have to send this one back im very mad because i brought 16 games and cant play anyone of them i guess i should put my money in sonys pocket instead

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  30. Hmm…well, I told them I played it without the HDD on, and it still froze up. So, they told me to send it in, without the HDD even attached. It would be pretty hard for them to clear my cache, without the HDD. They just want the console, no wires or anything. I personally think it’s some problem with the video card in there, or bad soldering connections, considering the game on the HDD freezes up. Only thing I can think of. I’m really just pissed off about the fact the the customer service rep told me that I would have it back in 10 days, it’s been 6, the box to send it off in isn’t even here yet. It’s coming tomorrow. He also gave me the complete wrong tracking #. I even told him it was the wrong # of digits for a UPS tracking #, and the tracking # for UPS has letters in it. He was a complete tool. Oh well…I’ll update whether or not they actually fix it.

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  31. Oh, just to clarify, I did call back 2 minutes after the first customer service rep to get a new one. Guy spelled my name wrong and everything. Don’t know how much clearer I could have been with him.

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  32. Hey you guys i’ve been expierencing some trouble with my 360. Iv’e had my 360 since last april ( birthday ) and i’ve been getting these 3 red lights that will go on in the middle of my game ( Gears of War ) and it wont even let me shut it off by pressing the button on the xbox. I have to unplug it and let it sit for like 30 minutes. Then turn it on again. If anyone knows how to fix this problem I will greatly appreciate it if you help me, and i will reward you with a 3 month trial to xbox 360 live. ( if your theory of fixing it works ). Thanks again. If you wish to tell me on XBL my Gamertag is II MeTh0dz II. The o is a zero in the name, and there are spaces between the I’s……. thanks again.

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  33. my 360 is freezing when I sign onto ea server i attempt to start a game and it freezes and i have to shut it down…I hate xbox

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  34. Elliot,

    Could be one of 2 things, otherwise it needs to be repaired. Your’s actually sounds like it’s overheating, since it works if you leave it off for a while. I’m going to assume you’re not a complete idiot, like MS doesn’t, and not tell you to put it out in open air. A lot of people have been having success with suspending their power supply somehow. Either stringing it up, or putting it on a box corner. Apparently it overheats more then the console.

    The only other thing I can think of, is some people had a problem with a patch from XBOX live, and for some reason it makes their HDD connection all screwy. Some play with it vertically and put a book on top of it, and that seems to work out for them. However, that’s effing ridiculous, and if you have to do that, you should be sending it in anyway.

    Other than that, I can only tell you that a bad AV cable connection is another cause of the 3 red rings, if that’s plugged in well to the TV and the XBOX, I don’t know what to tell you man. You can try going through Max’s BS troubleshooting tips, on 1-800-4MY-XBOX, but that usually doesn’t solve anything. Good Luck

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  35. Yea thats what i think it is. I think its overheating probably because I play it so much lol. My friends keep telling me to buy a fan or 2 that you can plug into the back of your 360 and that will keep it cool? The funny thing is that its -10 degrees here right now so my heat is blasting and thats what is probably causing it to overheat. If anyone knows about these fans and if they work good please let me know the price and where to get them, Wal-Mart,Best Buy, Gamestop, ETC. Thanks Again.

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  36. FYI, GoW and Madden 07 are the 2 main games that froze on my console, ALL THE TIME. I couldn’t get through a full quarter, or 5 minutes of play when playing either game. Oblivion never froze, except at the load screens sometimes, SvR 2k7 froze frequently, but sometimes not. Kameo froze after 5 minutes, and so did Hexic.

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  37. The Nyko fan apparently does nothing, because it uses the 360s power to work. Supposedly it causes it to overheat more then if you didn’t even have it on there, and MS does not like you having it on there, for some, the fan actually voided their warranty. One thing you could do, is buy a standalone fan, and point it at the 360, or obviously if you have one just use it. But from everything I’ve read, the Nyko fan is actually a bad idea.

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  38. well i had the three red lights hapeened constantly i never got to play it but i took the side panels off and the dust was about 3inch thick so i wiped that off and wrapped 2 towels round it for 45 mins or so it kept turning off but i turned t back on and its been ok for about 4 days now so try it. and see if it works for you

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  39. Does anyone know if my warranty is burning away while the repair center has my XBOX 360? Do I get a different warranty on my repaired unit? Or is it still just one year? Really doesn’t seem fair that they’ve had it, or it’s been not working for a month, if they don’t take that off my warranty time. I mean that is 1/12 of my warranty. Does anyone know how it works?

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  40. My Xbox 360 freezes up when i power it up. It doesn’t even make it past the entrance thing it does. I havent seen the dashboard for days. I heard that holding A while it starts up clears the cache off of it, which would make since because i was playing ES4 Oblivion and i heard that game takes alot to run so i might try it but i really dont wanna be dissapointed again when it doesnt work. I will probably just submerge it in water and end its life all together…….

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  41. Fred, clearing the cache is a little more involved than that. If you take the HDD off, and it still does that, it has nothing to do with the cache. Try running all your games in it, one after another. That’s supposed to “clear the memory”. It’s easy to see if it’s the HDD, just take it off.

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  42. my xbox has these 3 red lights. i have tried that the towel thing but that isnt helping. it doesnt even go to the xbox logo. it just stays blank. i need to know if i should send it in and get bit fixed or just buy a new one. just somebody tell me what to do.

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  43. “Hello, I called earlier and was told to send my xbox to the repair center… but I did not get any information about whether you are sending me a box or whether or not I have to pay to ship it myself. It would be great if you could help me with that.”

    “You need address for repair center?

    “Ummmmmm, no, i was wondering if you are sending me a box and whether or not i have to pay for shipping.”

    “Ok mr. Anderson, address is 5700 South International Parkway Door #18 McAllen Texas 78503… You need me answer any other questions?”

    JESUS TAP DANCING CRIST, I’M NOT A RACIST PERSON BUT IF YOUR JOB IS CUSTOMER SUPPORT ESPECIALLY OVER THE TELEPHONE, LEARN HOW TO FUCKING SPEAK AND UNDERSTAND ENGLISH. No exaggeration… i called them 9 times and got 8 mexicans… 8 of which i could barely understand and 6 of which couldn’t understand me. Please, please find any english-speaking citizen to answer your telephones. I don’t care if they are a crack addict, as long as there is a clear communication that I am asking them for help in a specific area, and they aren’t guessing as to what I am asking about, reading off a list of “Common Responses To English-Speaking Pissed-Off Teenagers”.

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  44. help!!!!
    MY XBOX ONLY WORKS WITHOUT THE HARDRIVE IN. I CANT SAVE!!!!
    BUT WHEN THE HARDRIVE IS OUT IT SAYS “THE DISK IS UNREADABLE”
    SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  45. That’s a really crappy deal Rory, means your hard drive is trashed. It’s not all bad though, because replacing the hard drive is really easy.

    First, I’d call Microsoft support and let them know your hard drive is dead. They may ship a new hard drive out to you if your Xbox 360 is still under warranty.

    If your warranty has expired, go pick a new hard drive up at your local electronics store.

    Hopefully you didn’t have a bunch of saved games and achievements on your dead hard drive. They’re pretty much lost forever.

    The one good thing about hard drive failure is that it doesn’t require you to send your Xbox 360 into Microsoft for repair. MS can either send you a replacement or you can go purchase one by yourself.

    When I was speaking to Microsoft support about my issues with the 3 red lights, the agent was confident my hard drive was to blame for the red lights. I popped the hard drive off and still got the red lights, so it wasn’t the hard drive. I was pretty disappointed when removing the drive didn’t fix the 3 red lights.

    Have you seen the 3 red lights at all Rory?

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  46. Mine was fine until i started playing call of duty 3, now i have the freeze thing happening too, but no error codes yet. it’s not my psu because i blew that up 6 months ago and made my own with a 350watt computer psu, and everythings been fine until today. what a $400 piece of crap!! In case anyone is wondering how i blew up the psu, i plugged my 110volt xbox360 into a 240volt outlet. bought it in usa, took it to spain.

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  47. what if the game starts but frezzes on the game startup logo?
    This has happened to all my games even the demos i have downloaded.
    is it overheating?
    ………….
    P.S:
    Man, microsoft is f***ing up.

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  48. Hey. A big problem with my xbox 360. When i play Need for speed :Most wanted in it . it hangs after some time.I play this game on a crt tv(60 hz). The whole system hangs as the controllers dont even work. I think its only a prob lem with most wanted as i pplay CRACKDOWN, GOW,GRAW and PGR3 on it. Its also not overheatd . So please help.

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  49. i need help with the system i wanna know what error e67 is really about and if its possible to be fixed. error ocurred right out the box, console freezes after the 360 logo and doesnt even load the dashboard

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  50. I found Mr. Andersons comment very funny, however there Indians in India, not mexicans, and I completely agree. My xbox is also freezing. It veries on the time, and place. Sometimes in the screen logo, sometimes in the game. Really anywhere. I have found that in cases on the logo freeze, the machine will go quite. If the xbox revs (gets loud) it manages to get over to the set up. Also, it makes a wierd click sound when it first starts off, one that I cannot remember it doing when I first got it in December, 2006. It sounds like it’s cacthing on something. I also read in an Internet article that the intercooler cooling system might be messing withit, draining valuble energy from the xbox, and leaving scoorch marks. Also, Im wondering about this update. I beleive it does it manually for you, so should my xbox already have it? I’m going to try some of the tips people said and get back. Hopefully I don’t have to deal with those none English call centres!!!!!!
    (no affence ment)

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  51. Ok, well, I got a completely different XBOX 360, and I think it’s brand new. Everything works OK, except for the fact that sometimes it displays everything too dark, sometimes too bright. It’s frozen twice already. Oh, I forgot sometimes it says “if you want to play this game, put it in a XBOX 360.” In case nobody could tell, I was being sarcastic when I said everything was OK. Sometimes it takes 10-20 minutes of ejecting, and powering on and off to get the thing to work. I guess I have to send this one off too.
    Marck: From everything I’ve read, you’ve gotta send that XBOX to MS. Some people have been able to get it to go away for a while, but eventually their 360 crashes anyway.

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  52. I bought my 360 in like june of 2006 and i guess 3 months after that i started getting this message “unrecognized disc” and i thought i didnt take care of my games then i got FIFA 07 when it came out and i took very good care it i would take it out before turning the console off then the next week it stopped playing it wouldnt work at all and i noticed these scratches on it that look weird like squirlly lines and i tried my other games and not a single one worked WHAT DO I DO SOMEONE PLAESE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  53. i have never connected to xbox live does it need to be connected to get updates would the updates help with my problem MOTAZ

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  54. Motaz- From reading some of the comments on this page, and others, I have found out that updates can be our Xbox’s live safer, or it’s ultimite down fall. I guess it depends.
    My question after my first post is that after doing some of the tips, like removing the harddrive, I heard a slight sound. It sounds like something has come loose. does that majorly affect the condition of the xbox??? I know my remote for my t.v has something also loose inside, and it works fine!? If someone has a similiar case like mine, or knowledge on the subject, please make a comment back!!! Thanks!

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  55. hey i accidently sent in my hard drive with my comsole for repairs. they told me just to send the console. my friend has the exact same problem as my 360, and he sent his in. He got a entire new xbox. does anyone know if i get a new 360 will i get my hrd drive back? im a little worried because i got 8 arcade games on there…

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  56. My Xbox 360 has had freezing problems lately and I’ve been trying to get the top plate off so it might back able to cool faster. It seems to get very hot after awhile and freezes shortly after playing a game (I can get to the title screen and leave it on for hours without it freezing). What I want to know is how to get the plate(s) off.

    -Nick.

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  57. My xbox is like sucking rihgt now ive tried it all. I unplugged all i put towels over it it worked but the stupid tv screen stayed blue from the V.C.R!!! ms dont help for crap if you want to have a 360 that works you might as well mail it in!! =(

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  58. Hey bout my last comment pleassssss mail me back if u know how to get that dumb blue screen like me and have info on how to get it right. THANKS!

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  59. Ok I’ma kinda got that but i got mine 3 months ago and I got the 3 red rings of doom fix that but now I got this freezing and blue screen thing and no one else as had and it keep freeze every 2 mins I don’t want to send it in but I have to it sucks b/c I got crackdown and I havn’t even played it yet so if you think you can help me!!!! -cries-

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  60. DJ: Best thing you can do is call Microsoft at 1-800-4MY-XBOX. I had to call today and finally convinced them my Xbox 360 is toast. I’m sending mine in to the repair center in McAllen, TX on Monday.

    The support “agents” at Microsoft are pretty difficult to understand. First time I called the guy spoke perfect English, last two times I had real trouble communicating at all. Hopefully I got the address for the repair center correct.

    I’d call MS and tell them you’ve tried all the fixes (you really should). They will probably then offer to repair your Xbox 360, assuming it’s still under the 1 year warranty.

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  61. Chris: Probably won’t see your hard drive again. The lady I spoke with earlier today told me there’s a good chance I wouldn’t get my hard drive back if I sent it in also.

    I’d be interested to know if you get yours back, let me know if you can.

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  62. You almost never get the HDD back if you mail it in accidentally. Some people have gotten “free” HDDs because MS mistakenly put it in their box. That’s why you get that sheet in your “coffin” that says to take everything off that you don’t have to send in, in bold font. If you call 100 times, you might get someone who wants to work with you. However, it’s extremely hard to get someone you can even understand. I must have called the number 20 times, and gotten someone I could clearly understand once, and didn’t have to say “what?” at least 20 times. I’m not exaggerating.
    Bean: Both 360s I’ve had sound like there is something free, moving around in there, near where the HDD is supposed to be. I’m not at all sure if it’s supposed to be like that or not (definitely sounds like something has broken off), but both I’ve had, I could hear it if I rotated it. I heard it on my second one while taking it out of the box.
    Seven to Eight: Send it in. I didn’t want to either, but it’s sure better then sitting around with a XBOX 360 that doesn’t even work.
    Motaz and Nick: My first 360 froze all the time too, every 5 minutes. If it happens with most games, your time and date are correct, and you’ve tried it without the HDD attached, there’s no magical cure. Something in the 360 has gone, or has always been bad, and you’ve gotta send it out for repair. FYI, the only game of mine that worked, on my first 360, was ES4 Oblivion, and it looked terrible, too dark, and tons of image smear.

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  63. Drew- That is exactly where the loose sound is coming from, right near the harddrive. I guess if it gets worse, I’ll send it in.

    I live in Canada, any estimate on how much shipping and handiling, etc. will cost?? Any more tips or suggestions??

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  64. Hi I’m from Mexico city, the reason i’m writing right now i because i need help, i think that i have the same problems with the xbox 360, when i am playing, any game, the xbox always freezes, my xbox its always connected to xbox live because it has the wireless adapter and now i am frustrated because i already sent my xbox to MS three times and i don’t want to send it anymore.

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  65. If you’re in warranty (year) I think it’s free shipping. I know it was free for me, but I live in the US. I don’t see why they would make you pay just because you are in Canada. The only people I’ve read about having problems are people overseas or something, and only certain countries.
    I just read your first post, sounds like you are having the same problems as my first one. However, mine froze once in the beginning of me getting it, didn’t do it for a month, and, all of a sudden, went from working perfectly to freezing every 5 minutes of gameplay. It was especially bad with GoW and Madden 07. If it’s in warranty, I wouldn’t deal with freezing problems. From my experience, nothing freezing up, magically gets better, it only gets worse. Give them a call, and see what they’ve got to say.
    On a side note – people in the US pay around 8 dollars for 2 day shipping, and around 140 to repair. It varies.
    http://forums.xbox.com/943579/ShowPost.aspx
    If you’ve got time, you can read that thread. It’s the official xbox.com thread on return/repair/shipping. People’s experiences.

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  66. PLEASE HELP. I have a xbox 360. Since the time i have played crackdown on my console SOMETIMES i get this ERROR:
    TO PLAY THIS DVD PUT IT IN A XBOX 360 CONSOLE.

    PLEASE HELP ME .

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  67. Got it fixed but getting a new car so i have totally forgotten about my Xbox, thanks for all your help.

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  68. Yah man, my one is in the year warranty. The frezing is not that bad, I just have to turn it on and off about 5 times, each time getting farther. That eventually gets me to the game, where it seems to be fine. It’s only from start up to the dashboard where the problem is. Mabye it’s something to do with the hard drive. I don’t know, whatever. It just sucks because I can’t really watch movies on it. For Eg, i downloaded that South Park, video, and I can only watch about 5 mins, until it frezes. Thanks Drew

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  69. u can also try an hdd cache clear to see if it helps.
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907586

    btw, the loose thing u hear near the hdd side is not anything broken, its actually a sensor that tells the console whether u have the unit itself standing vertically or horizontal, its nothing to worry about.

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  70. I bought my 360 from a good friend and apparently he haven’t had this big of a problem with freezing screens, but for me it freezes up from time to time, sometimes it happens after 5 mins, sometimes after 5 hours. I think it’s only when I play games it happens, not necessarily ones I bought but demos and downloaded stuff too. So it might not just be the CD reader. I’ve left it on for several hours just downloading and nothing happens so.. When I started Project 8 (tony hawk) it first froze two or three times directly after I started to play, then I could play for hours without any problem, same with Oblivion. I mean what the? Why? My TV is pretty old though, it’s probably from late 80’s early 90’s. But why is it that it only happens sometimes? Yesterday I could play all day without a problem, but on the evening it happened pretty often. I’ve wanted Oblivion for so long and I don’t want any problems with it now when I’ve got it.

    The xbox gets quite hot though, but as I said I’ve left it for several hours without any probelem, and sometimes it just freezes after 5 mins from being completely unplayed for a long time.

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  71. Mine has been having the same problems as daniel’s i had heard that the was a recall for xboxes sold in the last 3 months but have not been able to find anything about it on their site or anywhere else let

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  72. Ever since i have bought guitar hero 2 my xbox has been freezing and given my the ring of death

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  73. well mine was freezing with mlb2k7. froze, scrambled screen or weird colors and made funny noises. the freezing got more frequent and then the red lights.

    it is not under any warranty so i decided to try the towel trick. worked ok for a while, then red lights again.

    tried the towel thing again, and now i let it sit turned on for about 15-30min and then i use it as much as i want with no freezing, it is running as new once again.

    ps. i have also turned the power brick upside down and over a cd spindle box.

    im impressed on how well its been running, specially since thinking my 360 was dead.

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  74. Hello, my box keeps frezing after 3-6 mins. It has wiggely lines and makes wierd sounds. It is not over heated and does not have the three red lights. I can get passed the dashboard but when playing various games they all freeze. This is obviously not the games fault but the 360’s.

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  75. sorry to tell you bro, but it sound slike ur 360 is dying, mine started doing the same before it died.

    soon enough ull get the red lights.

    i suggest u start looking up the towel trick and prepare ourself to do it.

    that is too say, if ur not under warranty, if u are, then u should contact ms.

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  76. Aaron: Sniperman is right, unfortunately. That’s exactly what mine was doing a few days before I started getting the 3 red lights like crazy.

    Your Xbox 360 is most likely on its way out. It may be worth trying the towel trick once you see the 3 red lights. Seems to work for a number of people, I didn’t have much success with it though. I got the 3 red lights to go away for about 5 minutes using the Towel Trick. It’s by no means a cure-all for your Xbox 360’s problems.

    Really, the best thing you can do is call Xbox Support at 1-800-4MY-XBOX and start troubleshooting with an agent. If they’re unable to get your Xbox 360 working, they’ll probably ask you to send it in for repair.

    If you do end up having to send your Xbox 360 in for repair, check out my post about returning your Xbox 360 for repair.

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  77. I phoned the ms support line but told me to take the power supply to a local store because they diddnt know if it was that or the console itself. They wanted me to try it with another 360 to see if it was the power supply charger thing or the 360.
    If it was the console they told me to send it in. If it was the power supply then send that in.
    Luckly im 8 month under garuntee so i think ill send it in rather than the towel trick because that sounds as if it might make it worse.

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  78. shame.
    i doubt its the power brick.
    in either case, good ur under warranty.

    i was out of it, so i did the towel thing

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  79. You know, the towel is only a temporary fix. Eventually it will completely break. It’s just expanding the solder in there, and other metals to give you a temporarily good connection.
    Aaron, MS told you to go to a store, and try the power brick with another 360?! That’s ridiculous. I’ve never heard of that. Usually, they tell you to look at the light on the power brick, and tell them what color it is. I’d call back for someone else. The guy I got hardly asked me any questions at all.

    “What color is the light on the power supply?”
    “Green when it’s on, yellow when it’s off.”
    “Ok, your XBOX has to go out for repair, we’re sending you a box.”

    It was that easy.

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  80. the towel trick has been my temp fix for a couple of weeks now, actually only did it twice, now it seems i just have to let the console sit for about 30min and i can play all i want without freezing.

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  81. my xbox 360 keeps getting the three flashing red lights and i did what the customer service told me to do you know the unplugging and the plugging back in shit and i did it like 10 times and it still wont work so i unplugged everyhing and i held it up to ear and gave it a little shake and i heard a little ticking niose………so WTHF should i do?

    ps if anyone has or had the same problom help me out

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  82. I’ve always had the “ticking” noise with all my consoles. Near the HDD. But, all my consoles broke within a month, so I’m not even sure it’s supposed to do that. It has to be sent out for repair. If you’re not in warranty, that kind of sucks. There’s no magical cure.

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  83. what did u hold up to the ear? the 360? if so, yeah, u should hear as if something was lose inside. what you hear is the vert/hor sensor.

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  84. I purchased my console about 9 months ago. I searched NY, NJ, and PA to get my deluxe system. Finally, I found one at the Sam’s club. This was one of my happiest days I could remember. Since buying the console, I purchased FNR3, Star Wars Lego, Blazing Abgels (sucked!) and the original Ghost Recon (awesome!). The box worked fine. About a month ago, I purchased Ultimate alliance and MLB2K. Both games froze on me for the first time and then gradually freezing became more frequent. Now freezing is a common occurrence sometimes in the middle of the game or sometimes at startup. I don’t have my origianl receipt so I have to pay for the repair but i refuse to after reading all these horror stories about people who are on their third box?? This is effing ridiculous!

    My question is: has anyone heard about freezing or similar problems associated with the more recently manufactured xbox 360s?

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  85. @MS sucks: My original 360 had an April/06 mfr date. It had the same exact problem you just described, within a month. I sent it in, and they sent me a refurbished console from October/06. I played for another month, it froze, and gave me the 3 red lights when I tried to turn it back on. Obviously since October/06, it’s already broken on at least 2 people. I have no clue about the 07s.

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  86. mine started freezing at the dash board but its fine with out the hard drive so im jus gonna send it in fer a new 1 =]

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  87. sniperman: lets face it, all the trouble shooting tips is a waste of time b/c they don’t work.

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  88. Hey guys i need some help. I want to hook up my xbox 360 wirelessly but i dont want to spend $100 dollars on the microsoft adapter. are there any other adapters that work?

    Also, my computer connects to my internet wirelessly, so would it be possible if i connected my 360 into my computer with an ethernet cable, that i would gain access to the internet?

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  89. Another thing, i dont have a warranty for my xbox. i bought it from best buy and didnt get the 2year coverage plan. If anything was to ever go wrong, am i totally screwed or can microsoft send me a new 360 regardless?

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  90. ur screwed if ur out of warranty.

    u can get a router on your pc then connect the 360 to the router, but since u mentioned wireless, there are many “wireless game adapters” on the market, some are pretty cheap.

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  91. Hey Drew I’m getting the same problem with my xbox. It’s almost like your reading my mind. lol If I ever made a game system I would at least have them all working correctly. I’m not freakin rich. I’m 16 and I paid 400 dollars of my own money from lawn mowing to buy this thing!!! Do you know how hard it is to get a job around here and get money for the things I want. It’s very HARD! I spent all my summer saving up for the 360. I should have kept my old xbox at least that worked.

    THE XBOX TEAM TOOK A CRAP IN MY FACE WHEN I BOUGHT THE 360 .
    Those A-Holes

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  92. Heh, yeah. I don’t have a problem with my original console failing. I was a little miffed about it, but I understand that anything, mass produced, will have a few lemons here and there. It’s how they repair/replace them, and in the time frame they do it, that I’m concerned with. So far, it’s taken a month each time I need to get it repaired, and the repair quality is complete crap. One month of a refurb is not nearly enough time. If they actually fixed it, I’d be happy, but this one month box thing, is ridiculous. It’s like: I have it a month, MS has it a month, I have it a month, MS has it a month…we like to share.

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  93. Damn, mine started to freeze and not being useable despite all the usual solution (clear cache, etc.. etc.) since I poped Lost planet, got the updateโ€ฆ
    Crap. Now Thank you MS, Iโ€™m 100% Sony thankfully to you !! (first time I donโ€™t buy the Nintendo console -> Wii)
    Ever owned all console.. but sur will not buy a new vaccum cleaner 360 for that a crap piece of hardware.
    as the other one sais.. what did we waited ?
    Isnโ€™t it MICROSOFT after Allโ€ฆ pathetic
    Go buy a (silent) PS3, you’ll be able to play (un-freezed) games and see (and hear) HD Movies..

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  94. This is Mr.Assassin ,um today my 360 frozed and it keeps showing the red lights so im doing the stuff all u guys said and took me 5 hours to read all your messages and i hope it works p.s any1 seen my WarHog

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  95. Hey guys. I bought my Xbox in February 2006 I believe. No Problems till a couple day again, April 28 2007. It wont even turn on to the dashboard and gives the three red lights. Ive tried everything!!!!! can any one help? i Hate that we have to pay 140$ for a repair, we should be getting free XBOXS!! Does anyone know if maybe i can just buy a new power Cable?

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  96. ok i bought an xbox 360(new) 2 days ago at gamestop and got fusion frenzy 2 for free.so i also bought nba 2k6 used.when im playing nba 2k6 it works fine.but then i pop in the fusion frenzy and play about 10 min and it stops and says ”unreadable disc”
    what should i do????????????
    PLEASE HELP

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  97. So far the only games my 360 freezes on are: EA Sports NCAA 07 and Madden 07. I have been playing Call of Duty 2 half the night and it seems okay. Does that pretty much determine that it is the EA Sports causing the problem? I’ve played EA Sports on my PS2 and orig XBOX, no problems. I hope the NCAA 08 and Madden 08 don’t have this problem – if it’s the games. I also have the option of sendinf in the console, but don’t want to if its the games…. Tks for any help

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  98. My 360 never froze on Ncaa 07 and Froze very little on Madden 07. It probably is your game, but its not all EA Sports games. Oh and im not paying the 140 to get my xbox repaired, now they are saying i have warranty so its free :] still mad that i have to wait about 4-5 weeks.

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  99. I do not have the three red rings; however, my daughter’s console boots up but the screen stays blue. It will not play any of the games. We never had a freezing problem. Bought it in December 2006 and maybe played it a total of 15 hours to date. Has anyone experienced this problem without the red rings of light?

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  100. maybe ur av plugs arent properly plugged in?
    and how can u have a 360 for 6 months and only pla5 15 hours?

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  101. im pretty heated cause i got the 3 red rings right, i figured it over heated so i let it sit alone for a hour or so…i come back i pop in spiderman 3, the game works but only for a little over a minute then it freezes…anybody had that yet?

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  102. Weebush: I think everyone here has had something similar. Once you see the 3 red lights, you’re pretty much screwed, sad to say. You can try the towel trick or a number of other fixes but the only real fix seems to be to return your Xbox 360 for repair/replacement.

    Is your Xbox 360 still under warranty? If not, did you purchase a service contract or anything similar from the place you bought it?

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  103. Just so you guys know, I’m sending my console in for repair this week. I spoke to a representative and was advised that if you pay for repair, you get one year warranty and not three months as previously stated. This new policy was effective May 1st. Also for those that are out of the original warranty, I strongly advised you guys to talk to the supervisor. They can authorize to discount up to half the repair cost. The representative also told me that MS policy is that on your 7th return for repair, they’ll replace it with a brand new console. I hope the rep wasn’t blowing smoke up my ass. She seemed pretty knowledgeable, but also I got the sense that she likes to have answers for everything. I’ll have to wait and see. I’m not hopeful my console will be repair so I’ll send it in as many times as I can and complain on record as many times as I can. If doing this is going to get me a new console then I’d say it worth it. I’m hoping the newer ones won’t have as many problems as thousands manufactured in 2006.

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  104. Ok guys help me out. this is gonna be long but bare with me lol. so I got my 360 January 2006 and it was perfectly fine, a few freezez here and there which shouldnt even be happeneing on these next gen consoles. Im a huge xbox fan, i bought 12 games, and spent over 1,000 dollars so far. well about 4 weeks ago i got the thrree red lights. I tried turnining it on and off, then it wouldnt even turn on; so i sent it in. My friend knows i cant live without playing online so he let me borrow his, he said he had no problems with it, except it would freeze on NCAA07. so i had his over 2 weeks now with a few freezez on MLB2k7, well today it gave me the three red lights and the screen turned off, i thought it died!!. so i went to game stop and i asked could it be the game b/c it did it twice with different systems on the same game, well they said it souldnt be the game, its just the system; then this guy walks in and said it might me dust, that his cousin sent his in from the three lights and they sent it back and said the problem was the dust. So i go home and blow in it and alot of dust comes out, just like my first one, i place the console in a open area and it has been working over 1 1/2 hr without freezing. Do u guys think it could be the power cord or b.c it mite be in a closed spot that it has to breathe? or is it ALL Xboxs that will die eventually? please help.

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  105. im sending in my 360 today. i hope they fix it because i will be ticked, in mine the problem was alover, first this thick black smke coming out from behing and then it stopped. i let it cool and started it again. it scratched my disc so i couldn’t use it, the in the mddle of the night it exploded.its bulged out now, i doubt they will repair it i hope they semd me a new one.

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  106. My 360 worked fine, up until I bought Crackdown (dumbest game in the world) as soon as I loaded it into my console it told me I had to install this update before I was able to play it. I thought “okay, thats fine,” so I installed it about a week later my 360 started acting weird, sometimes it won’t even load any of my games at all!!! Get a screen that tells me to “Please insert this disc into a Xbox 360 Console.) WTF!! This is a damn 360!! It freezes at random load screens of my games! Oh, but Crackdown workes perfectly!!! This is fucking bullshit!!! Paid $400 for a damn paper-weight!!!

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  107. im starting to think i should have got a PS3 and burn my xbox…literually burn the fuck outta it..

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  108. Current UK wait on return to base fixes for the VERY BIG freeze issue is 15 days! no apologies, no explanations, no compensation…..shocking . Vertical 360 played for 10mths without an issue, signed up to Xbox Live 24hrs prior to freezing started!

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  109. Hi guys,

    i know a solution for the 3 red lights problem. Many people have their xbox 360 connected to a power strip. DONT DO THAT! The xbox 360 needs good, clean power. Connect it directly to a power outlet. It worked for me, so it will probably work for you.Reply to me if you have any problems.

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  110. Aaron: I tried that and it worked for about 15 minutes (it was rather nice to actually see some of the dashboard rather than just frozen intro screen) Although i’m not getting the 3 rings of death, I think I’m going to have to send it in to MS. Although after reading all your horror stories I’m not too optimistic. I bought mine in the beginning of Dec ’06 and it’s worked perfect untill today. I got the three red rings once, turned it off and turned it back on and now they’ve gone away. However my system starts to load and then freezes and gives me this kind of checkerboard effect which happens regardless of if I have a game in or not, and also still freezes when I take the HDD out. Which was my signal that things were hopeless..

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  111. I have to send my system in for a 4th time now. The first three times I had to was because my laser stopped recognizing all media discs (games and dvds). Now, the fourth time, my system reads DVDs fine but freezes everytime I pop a game into it. Every game froze (original and 360) and I took off “all peripherals”, including my ethernet and the Nyko Intercooler. Surprisingly enough, the intercooler has done me wonders and has kept my system cool.

    Anywho, I disconnected the hard drive and played some games, and they worked. Popped it back on to try the original games and some work and some still freeze. The 360 games and the Dashboard work fine, but it’s only during the opening scenes of the original games when it freezes. After it freezes, pushing buttons does nothing, no reaction from the console or the TV, the only thing I can do is manually turn it off. Help?

    PS: No red lights or overheating.

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  112. Sigh… I bought my 360 from a CostCo and have been playing it almost everyday, and no problems. I could play it for hours and hours, wondering what these crazy people were saying about overheating. Just last month i started playing COD3 and it frreezes everytime i play offline, and very occasionally online. then i rented full auto and beat the campaign, i played online and it froze consistently on the second to last lap of the race. I have everything in open location, and it freezes within the first five minutes or so,always in game. I dont have a warranty and i cant afford a new 360 or a hard drive! i have never gotten the rings of death, and still am loyal to MS, though i have has thoughts of stringing the thing up and blasting it with my shotgun. So bottom line is i cant send it in, cant afford another one, and MS online help is definetly lame. WTF is PAL and how do u change it from PAL50 to PAL 60?

    I dont want to throw my 36 away, i have 10000 gamerscore and my oblivion characters alone would make me cry if i lost them!

    Why the hell did i just buy another game today… oh yeah it was 75% off (Quake4)

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  113. I just played Full Auto on my main gamertag, froze withing first 2 minutes, then on my brothers, froze also, i tried w/o the hard drive and it worked fine. So my question is.. if i can get a new harddrive, can i transfer my gamerscore and achievements and such? and if i can will i be bringing the freezing to that harddrive?

    i was also thinking that maybe cuz i glitched in oblivion that that did it,but since my bros account didnt touch oblivion, and it still froze, then i dont beleive it was a game’s fault.

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  114. don’t send in just yet
    try the eraser fix
    type in xbox 360 eraser fix on google
    it worked for me
    currently have been playing for 2 solid weeks

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  115. Im having some problems with my xbox, ill go through what its doing.
    i turn it on, and then i press the open botton on the face of the xbox, and it wont open, but it will make the noise like its trying…eventually i can get it open, and lately its been freezing, i have it well ventilated with an extra fan attached to it, may date and time are correct. so could it be my hard drive, and if so….why is the hard drive causing the xbox to do that? any help as greatly appriciated…thanks =)

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  116. Hi i am having a problem with my xbox360 can anybody help me?
    I bought it about a month ago and it worked fine but it froze sometimes. I have just bought Kameo and i had to update it to play it and it worked without a problem for a couple of days. But over the last week it has been freezing frequently and today when turned it on it froze before the dashboard came up and i have tried again and again but i cant even get playing it for 2 minutes before it freezes. the 3 red lights came up once but that was about a week after i bought it and it hasent came up again. it is well ventelated and i dont ever play it for long periods of time (max 3hr’s). Also when i tried changing the game i put in crackdown and it told me that there was an error with the HDD and there is no saved data so i tried disconnecting the hard drive and the ethernet connection (all acessories) but it still keeps freezing i dont want to have to send it away, is there any other way of fixing it?

    PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!

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  117. I’m not getting any error screens, and im not going to take the risk of using the eraser fix… there might be immediate results, but noone knows what the long term concequences might be. So, i still have no warranty and it just freezes, though i can play king kong for 5 hours and still have it not freeze, but i can only play COD3, crackdown, full Auto and many others for maybe 2 minutes. though sometimes i can randomly play for a day w/o a problem, its not an overheating problem either.

    I’d appreciate any further help, thanks.

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  118. Ok, i played king kong all the way through and no freezes, then i iplayed full auto right after, it froze immediately online. i then took out my hard drive and played a quick match offline, and for the first time it froze. im pretty much confident that im going to buy another 360, but the question is, a elite? or a core and a 120 GB drive. i heard there was a problem when you transferred all your data to an elite, like you couldnt play it if you online or offline or something. if anyone can tell a non techy wat the big deal is and what you think i should do, please reply.

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  119. As much as I love Dead Or Alive 4, I don’t think I can deal with the Xbox 360 again after today’s discovery of it not working properly anymore. I miss my PS2 – it has tons of great games and doesn’t fizzle out just by SITTING IN THE LIVING ROOM FOR A MONTH WITHOUT BEING PLAYED. Seriously? The Xbox 360 is a mistake as far as console purchases go. The advertising and imagery certainly dazzle us, but is it worth so many problems? Not if you are broke like me. Give me something safe and stable with more (better) games. Hell, I only bought this system for DOA4. I’m truly disgusted. I don’t even remember if I purchased a warranty during my little credit spree at Circuit City… if I did, I’m getting this repaired and selling it to someone so that I can buy a PS2. This is the worst console experience I have ever had. This is quite possibly the most unstable console EVER.

    What happened:
    I decided to play DOA4 since I’m home sick today… I turned it on and started playing some of my custom music. I noticed that the voices of the characters and announcer were absent… suddenly the loading screen kept freezing after every match, causing me to reset the console. Now it doesn’t work at all and I get that stupid “Insert an Xbox 360 disc” message. Maybe hitting the console didn’t help, but I’ve only had this system for FIVE MONTHS. Give me a break! My NINTENDO from the 80s still works better than this overpriced piece of shit, and it’s in a dusty box with a bunch of dusty games.

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  120. I had the same problems. I was playin halo 2 today, and all the sudden my 360 made a beep, and then it froze. But it usually happened when i was in the game, rather than the dashboard. And i got the system for christmas!! And its June 26, 2007!! PLease help me!! E-mail me at [email protected]

    Thank you

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  121. ok im just letting us know i have been getting the 3 red lights today so i brought it back to the shop (GAME) and they just replaced it for me. Also i got to keep my hard drive so i diddnt loose any data or anything.

    So if ur having problems with it ant its still under warranty just bring it back.

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  122. Im so screwed if my xbox360 is permenetly broken. OK, so today i was playing a game on it and it just beeped and frooze, so i just rebooted it and played for about 5 minutes before it froze again! And the red light comes every few reboots. I do not have access to the internet with my xbox so im like soooo [email protected]#$ed. (parents say if its broken then they wont get it repaired) HELP!

    oh, and i got the xbox at christmas so the warrenty is gone! (Damn microsoft only making it one month)

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  123. hi mi xbox360 started frezzing today after i put in cheats for mlb 2k7 from cheat codes.com i dont think i will be going the agin if ther have bin simmilar caces plz replay i reallly need it fixed befor i go to states for allstars in baseball help will grately apreshated

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  124. My Xbox started freezing today. Played C&C for a few hours, then put in LOTR and I got the checkerboard screen of near death. Happened a few more times. I did the towel trick and it has temporarily fixed it.

    I’m wondering if I send in my HD with the console when it inevitably dies and they keep the HD and give me a new one, do I get 3 more free Xbox Live gold month memberships? Or are those based on the console itself.

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  125. Mine had the red rings of death come on right after the 90 day warranty ran out.
    My fix was: I pulled the harddrive and put back it back in, been working fine for over a year now. Probably just a bad connection.

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  126. Im having a freezing problem with my xbox 360 and wonder if anyone can help me out? ive already sent it out to get it repaired for the 3 red lights, and got it back pretty promptly from ms. it was all fine and dandy for the next 4 months, oddly enough it decided to start freezing a week after my 1 year warranty ran out. so my problem is, everytime i start a game, 5 min into playing, my screen gets all kinds of snow on it that distorts the picture, and its frozen until i power it down. i dont think its an overheating problem, because its well ventilated, and i invested in one of the intercoolers that attaches to the back to avoid this problem. anyone have any ideas on what it can be? and if i have to send it back without a warranty, any idea how much repairs will cost? thanks for your help.

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  127. I bought my xbox 360 in 06 and for a few months it was working fine. After that the discs wasnt reading. Dvd’s, cd’s, and games werent loading. I dont know what tto do.

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  128. Good advice but my 360 wont even start to do that and i already had the update ๐Ÿ˜› …. oh well i sent mine back…i hope i have good luck with it

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  129. I have sent my 360 back to microsoft, and they r gonna try to fix the “freezing problem,” and if they cant fix it, they r gonna give me a new one back for free. Either way i get it fixed.I just want to know how long it takes them to send it back!!!!!!!

    Please e-mail [email protected] if you can help.
    Thanks

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  130. this evening i was watching a movie on my 360 then after the movie i decided to play some gears. and when i inserted gears it said it had a update ready to be downloaded. so i downloaded the update. and then 10 minutes into playing the screen went into a black and white form and was frozen. and i got THE RING OF DEATH. now i wont even boot to the dashboard. the first time i tried to replug the cables it got to the 360 logo abd froze again now all i get is a blank screen with the ring. ive tried unplugin the hard drive and booting, and cooling the power supply, unpluging the hard drive, and ive got a intercooler, and still nothing. right at the moment its got three flashing lights. and this is my third 360. my first 360, the disk tray was off, the second the same, and this one ive had for a year and a half so im sure the warrenty isnt good. so should i still call the hotline. is that my only choice? but it was fine til the update. that makes me wander. P.S. sorry for the long freaking story guys

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  131. On July 5th 2007 Microsoft announced that it will expand its global Xbox 360โ„ข warranty coverage. Any Xbox 360 customer who experiences a general hardware failure indicated by three flashing red lights will now be covered by a three year warranty from date of purchase

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  132. Hi everyone, microsoft just sent me my shipping box i was wondering do i have to take off the faceplate?

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  133. thanks thats sucks….. to take the plate off, if you stand it up vertically, the bottom is where you should pry it off carefully with your bare hands perferablly, and it should pop off with a little force. i’ve only taken mine off once, and thats how i did mine. k

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  134. You are supposed to leave the original faceplate on the console when you send it away for repair. If you bought another faceplate, take that one off, and put the original white one back on, otherwise, it’s very likely you’ll never see it again.

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  135. oh shi* i sent it in with out the face plate do u think they’ll still be able to fix it and return it still

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  136. My xbox keeps freezing when i play xbox 360 games but not during old xbox games. ive tried cleaning and returning the games but i dont think the problem is with the game and it usually freezes at the same spot in every game does anyone know what i can do to fix this???

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  137. to me it sounds like a hardware problem. cause its not the disc’s if youve tried different or new ones. so i think you’ll need to either call microsoft or hope someone else on here knows what to do. but in my opinoin i’d call microsoft. k

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  138. I recently bought a 360 and the disk drive wouldnt open from the day i bought it it never opened once is there any fixes?

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  139. welllllll.. how long have you had it from the store you bought ut from? cause if you’ve bought it at wal-mart or someplace and it’s still under their warrenty you could exchange it for a new one on the spot. but if not i had a friend who had to send it back in to microsoft.

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  140. They probably won’t care. You probably won’t even get that one back. You might. I’ve seen people in the XBOX forums, that they sent it away without a faceplate, and they got one back with a faceplate. I do know, you get a faceplate back, and you are supposed to sent it in…but I’m not sure if it really matters that much.

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  141. Yeah, Floyd, why would you even want to fix it? When anything you ever buy isn’t working correctly, just bring it back to the store you bought it from, and get a replacement.

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  142. mine was sort of like this. first it started freezing during the game, then it would start freezing sooner form the time i turned my xbox 360 on. eventually it would just freeze on the first screen u see with the xbox 360 logo on it. It started doing this as soon as i downloaded an update for rainbow six vegas. then i started getting random combinations of red lights. it would be different comination every time i turned it on. so after throwing my headset and remote aorund a bit, i eventually just sent it in. too bad it takes atleast a month. it took a week for them to send me a box, a week to get to them, and they said it will take another week, after having it for a week and a half already, then they will ship it back (which will probably take a week as well). i almost wish i got a playstation 3

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  143. Its a common fault all of you are having. Its the build of the 360 itself and the locations of the heatsinks to the GPU/CPU.

    I suggest those ppl who are having their games freeze in the middle of playing(and you havent got your warranty anymore) to do a couple of things.

    Firstly, fit new fans at the back of your machine(monsoon whisper fans. they suck out more hot air and are quieter running.

    Also, do the fan shroud mod, which channels the fans airflow through the heatsinks rather than completely missing them altogether(especially the GPU which is situated under the DVD drive. The heat from the heatsink,left unchecked, rises directly onto the DVD drive!). Also, i would cut out the back holes of both the plastic face AND the metal to allow more air to pass through(almost 15/30% more airflow.

    These mods are detailed here

    http://rbjtech.bulldoghome.com/pages/rbjtech_bulldoghome_com/XboxHome.htm

    If your 360 has the RLOD from 3’oclock to 9’oclock on the power button(general harware faliure) You can attempt the x-clamp replacement. this has excellect results and WILL fix you 360′ RLOD.

    m$ have extended their warranty to 3 years because of the RLOD, so if you still can, send it back.

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  144. The problem with mine is, when i turn it on three spots in the circle will flash red. so i will reboot it this time it will come up for a second. Then the screen will freeze up. i have tryed everything anyone know what to do?

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  145. first make sure that you have to make sure that the power supply is not over heating, then make sure all the connections are good, and if it still isnt working then take the hard drive off and see if that helps, if not then i say if it is still under warrenty ull have to send it in to microsoft, thats what mine was doing, i still have to call to get it fixed, :.(

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  146. i had my xbox 360 christmas of 06 and it just starts to freeze now with 3 red lights and lines going across the screen with annoying noise not sure how to tell you how it sounds but it freezes with in 5 seconds of having it on sometimes 1 full minute and then it will freeze i do play alot on their it does do it rarely in the day time mostly at nite can someone help me

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  147. can u play ur games at all? if not, youll have to send it in to microsoft. if you can play ur games, make sure that the power supply is not in a place that it ould over heat, if it isn’t that then make sure it isn’t the harddrive, if that ant it then make sure all the cords are connectd correctly. but i dont know what to tell u about the sound, it may be just something that goes along with the freezing IDK. hope that helps some

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  148. ok. well then you’ll have to call 1-800-4MY-XBOX and follow the directions they give you. they will ask you if ypu did all the things recommended on troubleshooting the problem. if you did try all the things that i said and whats all on this page, then you need to say ya i did. and they will want to know the serial number off the back of your xbox 360, and your name, address,ect.. then they will send you a box and it’ll have prepaid postage all you need to do is put your xbox in it and then send it off. and if you know its not your harddrive you dont need to send it in with the consol. for example i have 100’s of hours of gameplay saves and stuff so i ask the guy that was helpin me on the xbox line and he said that all you needed to do was send in the consol. all of this is needed only if youve done ALL the troubleshooting ideas. if so there you go. hope this is helpful.

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  149. Thanks for the help I already called and they said when you get the 3 red lights and nothing on the internet helps they will replace it for free even shipping for free and i wont get it back for awhile

    I guess its been happening to alot of people. So microsoft gave everybodys xbox 360 another 3 year warranty if the 3 red lights show and it doesnt work

    Thankx

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  150. Ok to fix RRoD problems you will have to replace the mounting structures for the heatsinks, yes both of them. DO NOT USE THE TOWEL ‘FIX’ I can’t possibly imagine this working for an extended period of time. The issue is that the factory mounting devices for the heatsinks are puting stress on the motherboard aound the chips, then the xbox heats up it pops loose on one or several of the sodering points. The sodering points themselfs ar not the problem, well at least they weren’t.
    Some fantastic sites to get more info on this problem and to fix it yourself for about $15 US dollers are as follows:

    For error info:
    http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/repair/Xbox-360-error-codes.htm

    For turorial and fix:
    http://rbjtech.bulldoghome.com/pages/rbjtech_bulldoghome_com/XClamp.htm

    This one includes a very nice picture/diagram of what teh setup shuould look like.
    *note: I did heat the board by leaving off the fan cover untill the RRoL appeard, imediatly shut it off, then waited 15 minutes for it to compleatly cool. Then replace fan cover and reasemble your xbox. This guide tell syou not to do it. I would try it without heating the board first.

    I probably will never check this post again so if you want to e-mail me and tell me if it worked or not you can contact me at [email protected]

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  151. but if you do all that you will rip the sticker that microsoft put on the xbox to tell if you have been alterning with it. and its the warrenty has been extended to 3 years. so why spend 15$ dollars when you can call and then get it fixed for free and still have it under the remaining warrenty. so i ask why would someone do that??

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  152. Because my warenty was about a month past due and my extended warrenty never got activated. This was about six months ago and I haven’t had a problem since. Well untill recently with the freezing which is unrealated.

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  153. good point for some reason i didnt think of the extended warrenty not getting activated. so if you warrenty did run out your post would be of good help. sorry i posted before i thought it all the way through.

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  154. I have a problem with my game freezing. The screem doesnt stop but the disc stops spinning and the game can be played but not advanced. Like in my baseball game it will stop i can play two more batters and wont advanced to the next batter. Any ideas?

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  155. my xbox 360 freezes about 15-20 mins into the game. ive tryed giveing it the best air i could get but it still freezes, and not red lights come up either. if anyone knows what to do plz tell me

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  156. my xbox 360 freezes about 15-20 mins into the game. ive tryed giveing it the best air i could get but it still freezes, and not red lights come up either. if anyone knows what to do plz tell me

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  157. Is it the game that your playing or all of them? have you checked the disk or disks to make sure it or they an’t scratched?

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  158. I have a console that is freezing after about 10-20 mins. I have tried the update with no fix there. I have done the other sugestions aswell like the power supply off the ground and good mains supply. There is no RoL though, it stays green. Seeing as this is not covered by the extended warranty is there any suggestions as to what is wrong. I am quite confident in going in about the circuit and have access to solder rework stations if needed but would just like to know if it wil be worth going this way.

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  159. I was having the problem of not being able to get past the “Xbox 360” title screen with the logo from when you first start up you system. I did the whole ‘hold A’, put in all you games and even unplugged the power source.
    But then it came to me.
    The only upgrade that you get on you system that isn’t from Microsoft is for your HD DVD player, if you have one. I unplugged my HD DVD player and PRESTO! I’m playing Bioshock.

    I hope this helped anyone with my problem. Feel free to reply to this and I’ll get back with you.

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  160. My 360 froze up every time i started playing a game. Now, it doesn’t come on at all!! Just the 3 red lights. I’m mailing mine off to MS and hopefully, the problem isn’t in my Hard Drive.

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  161. My xbox started getting the 3 red light error.. so I did the very popular towel trick to get it going again.. it worked but then it started freezing a lot.. So then I tried downloading updates.. and now its back to the red error… I dont know what to do.

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  162. yeah… my xbox has been freeZing latley. not with all my games though. for example gears of war still works. the first 4 games i bought still work and then every once in a while my games from gamefly freeze as well. but i went to blockbuster the other day and rented stuntman ignition and i was aboput to start playing but during the first loading screen the game stopped. once its frozen i acnt get it to even pull up my mini dashboard thing. i have to restart it and even that doesnt help…at all. if anyone can help me please send me a follow up comment. thank you

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  163. hi all,
    i purchased my xbox in singapore and now i’m the U.A.E..the same problem RROD(red ring of death) and i’m assuming i can’t use the warranty in the U.A.E… the problem doesn’t occur till i actually put in the cd..if it’s in the dashboard it doesn’t happen…WHY??
    what do you suggest..i’m pissed real pissed.. i can’t afford another either…

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  164. bought a refurbished 360 a week or so ago, and just today i’ve been getting a lot of freezing on all my games. I moved my 360 and power unit to an open area, and it seems to be working fine. if you wanna play halo, add “Big T Rey91”

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  165. Microsoft should stick to softwear only.

    Buy a Playstation concil instead.
    What a major stuff up XBOX is Crap!!!!

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  166. This is bad..Halo 3 comes out in 10 days and now my XBOX 360 is freezing on me whenever I play a game. Every game I play freezes..even when Im playing the Call of Duty 4 Beta..(which is a downloaded game) at first I thought it might be my hard drive but it turns out its not that because I tried to play madden 08 without it and the game still freezes with funny colors and shapes on the screen.Its not getting any hotter than it usually does and I currently dont have the red lights. Ive had my 360 since December of 2005 so im thinking I had one of the good systems from launch..I dont have the receipt from when I bought the system but I do have the box. What are my options right now??

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  167. I bought my xbox 1 year ago and about two months ago my xbox started rebooting itself. Then it started freezing then a month ago I got The Red Rings and my xbox stopped working altogether. I decided to turn it on today and it started up ok, then i popped in a game and it started freezing again.

    Any tips to repair without breaching warrenty?

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  168. I bought my xbox 1 year ago and about two months ago my xbox started rebooting itself. Then it started freezing then a month ago I got The Red Rings and my xbox stopped working altogether. I decided to turn it on today and it started up ok, then i popped in a game and it started freezing again.

    Any tips to repair without breaching warrenty?

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  169. jarret,

    so lately the red lights haven’t been appearing? if not then idk what it is, but since you had the red lights you still might have to send it in, because without voiding the warrenty idk if there is a way to do it.

    grizzlebee,

    the weird shapes and colors are a few things that i got before i got the red rings. so if you haven’t got them yet, idk? and you dont need the receipt, cause the store you bouhgt it from probably wont let you exchange it for a new one cause its been so long. if you do end up sending it in all you’ll need is your xbox serial number and your address and stuff. but if you read up higher in this forum there might be some help, but in my opinion your most likly going to have to send it in.

    hope this helps.

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  170. are you able to play games on it period?? is the power supply light red, green, or yellow when you start it up?? is your power supply overheating?? is it in a well ventalated place?? if not and if your unable to play games on it at all, im going to guess you’ll have to send it in if your not wanting to void the warrenty. if your not worried bout the warrenty,(but youve only had it for a while and its still under the 3 year extended warrenty) i know here on this forum there is a few ideas that may work

    hope this helps

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  171. My boyfriends x-box 360 froze on his brother one day and then the next day there is no sound. Anyone know what happened?

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  172. THREE RED LIGHTS ON ROL. UNPLUGGED, PLUGED, MANY TIMES. FINALLY BLEW OUT SIDE PANELS TO CLEAR ANY POSSIBLE DUST, THEN UNPLUGGED THE CORD THAT GOES TO T.V. TURNED IT ON AND IT WORKED. WHEW !!!!!!! THIS CONSOLE IS A PAIN IN THE BUTT

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  173. I bought a 360, and within a month I had the “red ring of death.” after lots of searching, I found out about calling 18004MYXBOX (my warranty was out so i couldnt return it- i didnt buy the extended, which i regret a lot). I called, they sent me a box, I shipped it to microsoft, they recieved it Sept 14 in Texas and I got a whole new one sent back to me on the 27th, 2 days ago. I was very excited and pleased that microsoft gave me a new one and tried to repair my old one. (however the wait was dissapointing, because i got halo 3 with nothing to play it on) Within 10 minutes of playing halo 3, my new console that i had been waiting for froze. I repeat- WHOLE NEW CONSOLE. It freezes about twice in an hour if im lucky- this makes it difficult to play halo 3 because i usually cant finish a level so I dont even bother playing. I am SO frustrated with microsoft and the 360s. I spent all this money on one, and I have to send it to Microsoft and wait AGAIN for it to be repaired even though this was a new one. Who knows, it will probably have problems again if i get it repaired which is why i dont feel like going through the process again. I wish I bought the warranty, so i could just exchange it at a store rather than having to mail it and wait again. I think they need to give us a new warranty or something so I can just exchange at the store i bought it at. IF YOU ARE PLANNING TO BUY A 360, SPEND THE EXTRA $30 TO GET A YEAR WARRANTY!! this sucks!!

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  174. Hiya i do not have the red lights come up on the xbox 360 but every 3 minutes it crashes and it happens with every game i play if you kno what it could be and kno how to solve the problem send me an email at [email protected]

    many thanks

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  175. my xbox wont even let me play a new game a fot halo 3 and when i put it on it keeps on saying disc is unreadable and now when i turn it on it wont even cum on it sounds like its loaden up the it stops then trys to load up again any suggestions

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  176. ive got 8 xbox360 games. recently bought madden 08, bioshock and halo 3. i had no problem with my console till the other day when i went to play madden 08. i had the error of please put the disc in a xbox 360 console. preceeding that i tried every game i have with the same result, exept for halo 3 which i have no problems with. i look after the console and all of my games. could i put a cd/dvd lense cleaning disc in to clean the laser or would that be a waste of time. or should i bend bill gates over and jam it up his ass. if anone has any answers please help.

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  177. I know this isn’t the current topic of choice right now, but after 3 systems I’ve figured out the cause of E71. It’s simple really, all that creates it is when the newer systems are updating, the time and the date must be set correctly or it throws off the entire process resulting in E71.

    Just beware and be cautious.

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  178. well, ive had the same problem with my 360 but when i reboot it, it doesnt show error E71.it just ‘crashes’ and overheats at random times…when i first bought need for speed most wanted, brand new,it froze when the opening scene ended.same with halo 3 and def jam icon… Does anybody think its worth returning for a refurbrished 360??please answer ๐Ÿ™‚

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  179. if you cant play any games at all then i’ll trade it in, but if it don’t then i would probably still trade it in cause it an’t showing any of the scenes. so if it were me i trade it in.

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  180. if you cant play any games at all then i’ll trade it in, but if it don’t then i would probably still trade it in cause it an’t showing any of the scenes. so if it were me i trade it in.

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  181. Right now I’m waiting on the phone to get my 3rd xbox repaired. I haven’t had a working xbox since June! The first one had a three flashing lights problem. When I finally got the new one back (5 weeks later) it worked for about 5 days and then broke again. This time it had one flashing red light in the lower right. I went to send that one away but I was about to move so they told me to wait so there are no shipping issues. I finally move and send it back. I get a new one (another 5 weeks later) after a huge shipping error – yes they sent it to my old address somehow. At least the person was nice enough to not fake my name signing for it. So does it work? Nope…it has the exact same problem! I’m now on the phone with them again trying to figure this out. Considering I have had 3 broken xbox’s, I need to always talk to a supervisor which always takes me of being on hold for just shy of an hour. I’, not sure whats going to happen now….

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  182. that really sucks, but they will probably give you something for your troubles. they gave me a 1 month subscribtion to live, idk if they do that to all or what. but my older brother returned his three times and they gave him a game…. i cant recall it right now tho. o and each time yo called did you get a american or a arab? i got arabs twice. that made my experiences worse.

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  183. Yeah they give you a 1 month subscription to xbox live every time but they always have my xbox longer than a month. They will give you something if your xbox has broke a few times. They have games, but they are arcade packs or childrens games due to not being allowed to give out violent games. They also have accessories like the webcam or batter recharger packs for your controller. I’m getting a remote for my xbox which will work great considering I always play music and movies through it.

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  184. i wasnt aware that they gave out the live subscriptions. so they are givin you the remote. did you ask them for it or did they offer you some things and you chose the remote???

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  185. Yeah the live subscriptions are just automatic. I got a free month with every xbox. I did ask if there was some way they could compensate my trouble and he listed off a couple things.

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  186. My xbox 360 freezes only when i play N3, FMS2 and the champions league 06/07 but when i play oblivion dead rising or bioshock everything is fine.By the way i’m afraid that mine crashes and there no place to get it repair in Cambodia.

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  187. I was recently playing blue dragon (worked great no freezes) then all of a sudden after 35 hours of gameplay (over 2 months) it freezes like a picture during gameplay, I turned the system off (tray wouldn’t even open) and turned it on again. I get a lower right blinking light and an error message saying error 68 (which is harddrive failure) I turn it off, turn it on and the game plays, but 10 min. later, it freezes again, I tried it without the hdd and it does not freeze, then I tried two worlds with the hdd and after 15 min. that freezes during gameplay as well. But TW works fine without the hdd. (prior to the blue dragon freeze/error notice, everything was working fine) and I even cleared the cache, and they still freeze, will formating the HDD help? (do not have a memory card yet, so a little hesitant on formating, not to mention I do not have acess to xbox live to get hexic hd back) Any help would be great

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  188. Great my worst nightmare came true last night while i was playing oblivion the game freezes.When i turn it off then turn it back on again the 3 red rings of light came on.And i thought my xbox was safe when playing oblivion.By the way i can still open the tray when if freezes but i didn’t get any error message.Does anybody know how to fix it email at [email protected]

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  189. Scott,
    there is a code that will get rid of all the corrupt files on your 360 without reformatting. i don’t have it on me now i will have to look for it, i have it wrote down somewhere……. :.( it may be a day or two

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  190. i copied this from a source of mine read very carefully before trying
    i have not tried this out yet.

    Xbox 360 cache clear
    HEXUS.gaming reports that a cache clear code has been discovered for the Xbox 360 hard drive via the dashboard’s system blade. To perform the function, access ‘memory’ in the system blade, and then highlight the hard drive. Now press: Y, X, X, LB, RB, X, X. The following message should appear: “Do you want to perform maintenance on your Xbox 360 storage devices?”

    If you initiate maintenance, the hard drive’s cache will be cleared, including all software updates. Theoretically, this function could be used to un-update Oblivion in order to regain access to the unlimited gold and item duplication glitches. Note: we have not tested this function.

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  191. I bought my system in Jan 2006 and it has frozen randomly since I got it. Support has been of no help and just wants me to pay to have the system fixed.

    I know 2 people who have PS3s and they have not had a single problem. I have always been a loyal xbox fan, but I just can’t take this anymore. Gamers pay a lot of money for these systems and the problems with the 360 are unacceptable.

    I’m going to buy a PS3. I feel like I’m going to the dark side or something but its silly to keep dumping money into a system that fails.

    If my car ever acted like my 360, I’d sell it ASAP.

    I signed the recall petition some guy started, so if you’re mad too, here’s the link:
    online petition to get it recalled.

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  192. I just bought a 360 and right away it is freezing up. It never freezes until you start the game but when i start playing the game it happens every time on every game. What do i do? Could it be my DVD-Drive?

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  193. I bought my 360 in Feb 07.Out the blue on 10 Nov I had the ring of death.I managed to clear that somehow only to be left with the frezing problem on any game at any time.I`ve always been a playstation person but jumped to the 360 because of the ps3 delays.Oh I wish i`d waited.My 360 now has to go back to he repair centre something I have never had to do as a Sony customer.

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  194. Yeah, I am very disappointed with the 360. I posted earlier about having to get my x-box repaired 3 times. Guess what….yet again it’s broken. My CD-Rom sounds like a jet plane and actually rattles everything in the cabinet I put it in. It also has trouble booting up like my last one which could be caused from the hard drive.

    When I first got it, the faceplate was broken so you couldn’t push the wireless detection button. I have to take off the faceplate to use the button inside the x-box. Also, I was suppose to get a “compensation” for my trouble. I never got it only to find out they never shipped it in the first place. I had to get them to re-initiate it in their system…that was 4 weeks ago and I have yet to still get it.

    Also, if you keep having trouble. Nobody will help. The Microsoft HQ will not return calls and the repair depot will not do anything out of the ordinary to fix your x-box. Basically this means every time your xbox breaks, you have to send it away and hope your refurb or repair is good which in my case never is.

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  195. ok, i have to take the 360 repaired in MS, but i am from dominican republic, any idea about the shipping and all that stuff, i still have the warranty, and who knows how long would it take aprox. to get it repaired?… :S

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  196. I have had to phone MS again for shipping details now they tell me it takes 48hrs to receive there email with the shipping instructions.I think i might just go and buy a ps3…

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  197. Hi, my xbox only starts sometimes…for example, I will turn it on and the screen will tsay black and the power light on the 360 will not do anything or change color….when i restrat it a few times I sometimes get it to turn on…..and when it finally turns on it usually freezes right when the xbox symbol is appearing on the xcreen before the game even loads….I even tried it without my harddrive in it and it still does the same thing….And the funny thing is that i got this xbox from microsoft as a replacement for the one i sent in and it doesn’t even work….yay for microsoft

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  198. As I mentioned before, I get the same problem. It was a replacement as well. Not only that, the replacement for that xbox does the same thing. It also came with a loud cd-rom ๐Ÿ˜‰

    They told me the issue could be my hard drive but as you mentioned, even when you take it out it does the same thing. I wonder if this is a new issue popping up…

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  199. does someone know if the hot line to the repair center is free over seas? i live in the caribbean and i need to call but i wanna know if its free cuz im sure im going to spend a long time speaking with those guyz :S

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  200. half of the time i call i get some asian lady who i can barely understand so i don’t know, but yeah my 360 was somehow working last night then today it is back to the same problem it had 2 nights ago…i dont know what to do iv’e tried everything

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  201. yeah so im sending it in for the 2nd time now and i just hope the 3rd one i get doesn’t have a problem like the others did

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  202. theres a lot of things u can try. try putting a fan or moist towell on the power supply and xbox. make sure that youre power supply ant in a secluded place, make sure air can circulate. and try playing without the hard drive to see if the problem is the hard drive if it is then i would reformat, if not, and the problem is the consol, i dont know of any other ways you can fix it other than sending it in, you might want to search for other ways that will fix it, but those ways might or will void your warrenty.

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  203. Get this! I am on my 4th 360 total, 3 of them in the last month and a half!!!!!!!! Last 2 were refurbs and 1 of them didn’t think it was a 360…. Yeah wrap your head around that. I would put in a 360 game and the screen would say “Please put this game in an Xbox 360 to play” That was right out of the box. But now it gets better. I had to send that one right back and they sent me a BRAND NEW 360 MFR date 10-06-2007. I thought my troubles were over but not so fast. Right out of the UPS box it froze up in the xbox dashboard while trying to set the clock and has not stopped freezing up on the start up so far. I can not take it ANYMORE!!!! I am on the phone with Xbox waiting to speak with a supervisor ( 1 hour and 12mins on hold so far) Wish me luck.

    Yes I am typing this up while on hold…….

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  204. I’m in the same boat man. 4th X-Box and every return is a dud. I’m in talks with their xbox support excalations group and the person I’m suppose to talk to all of a sudden switched extensions.

    Haven’t had a working xbox since July….

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  205. I’ve had my system for two-years. I got the red rings of death last month – I went to service.xbox.com they sent me a box – the system went in, and in two weeks I had a different unit sent to me – and yes it was outside warranty, but they shipped to and from for free and replaced it for no cost.

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  206. Hi all.

    Just got the Wife a 360 and Halo3 today. I’m here because it freezes randomly from 2mins into game time up to 10mins max.

    I feel awful and out of pocket..

    Was excited for her too, she loves Halo. Upset.

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  207. to 1ltpayne.

    It just freezes mate.

    Tried without the hard drive it freezes.
    Tried just browsing the menu’s it freezes
    Adjusted the time to current it freezes
    Playing Halo3 without the Hard Drive it freezes
    Playing with the Hard Drive it freezes.

    No red lights.

    The fans are working pretty hard even while just browsing through the setup menu’s.

    I have not got online and updated any firmware, should I do this? Will it be the magic bullet fix?

    cheers.
    tommy.

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  208. Back again.

    I have had a look around on the net. I have only Halo3 and it seems there’s a problem with just this game?? I don’t get the red lights so maybe it’s the game??

    I guess I need to find someone at work and borrow any game at all and try it to see if it plays for more than 5 minutes..

    Still pretty pissed off though. ๐Ÿ™

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  209. Actually…. the menu without the game in freezes.

    I guess it’s just a matter of time before I get red lights.

    this is so annoying.

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  210. if you have not done any of the updates then you might as well give that a try, cause you’ve tried all the other stuff it sounds like. i would try the updates, if that dont work then, in my opinion i would give MS a call.

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  211. My box 360 broke after 45 days. I sent it in for repair they send me back some piece of shit thats a year and a half old right out of the box and it has 3 red lights. I call support and I get some Indian thats where I think they outsorce support to . Bottom line Xbox 360 is Garbage if you do not own one good for you buy something else…

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  212. I just went and bought a new one from Best Buy. I know I am a dumb ass for getting another one but I was waaaaaaaay to tried of waiting for a working one to come back, so I can play. I will now have 2. This way when one breaks I have one to play. Unless that breaks too then I’m screwed. Thanks for all the responses guys. Hope this XBOX crap gets worked out so we can enjoy what we spened so much money on. I know Microsoft likes taking it!

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  213. HEY MY XBOX WONT WORK WITHT HE HARD DRIVE IN IT COMES UP WITH ERROR E67 CONTACK XBOX/SUPPORT CAN YOU HELP ANYONE PLEASE

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  214. Hi,

    I am new the site and have been having problems with 2 xbox 360’s. One is mine the other is my brothers. You know how it is big brother gets something little brother wants one too. Anyway, one has a problem with the dvd. It sounds like the disc is grinding. That one is 2 yrs old and way out of warranty but I found a repair shop in my area that will fix that problem for $70. It worked great until that point. No red lights or anything. The other one I have problems with previously. However, I tried the towel trick and that fixed the problem temporarily (2 months). Today I turned it on and it told me that I could not connect to XBOX Live. I ran the test and that fixed that problem, or so I thought. The game (Madden 07) rebooted, loaded everything properly, and allowed me to run 1 quick match online. The system was unable to find an opponet and so I attempted to run the quick match search again and the game froze. I shut it off, turned it back on and the 3 RL’s appeared. I tried the towel trick again and to no prevail it doesnt work. I cannot find the receipt from when this one was purchased but I can get a copy of the check that was written for the purchase. Needless to say MS is no help and would not let me know if that would work as a proof of purchase. Does any know what I could use to prove the purchase?

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  215. One last question that I forgot to ask. I have been thinking about upgrading my Xbox 360 Pro to the Elite but before I make that deciision I needed to ask anyone who owns an Elite if the same problems persist with that system as the pro or does it seem to work a lot better? Just wondering

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  216. all of u should have got ps3 damnnnnnn even my cuz got got !!!!damnnnnnnnn cold blooded i have ps1 and 2 ps2’s so i really have a ps5

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  217. my problem is after appx 2 minutes of play my tv makes a static noise the colour of the screen pixelates and the 360 freezes, can almost gudge the time itll freeze

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  218. Hey I recently sent my 360 out to get it fixed and i got it back today.. and it still doesnt work =( it booted at first, ran Gears for a while, then starting freezing.. very weird.. i sent it out in the first place because it was giving me the red lights for no reason.. now i get to the dashboard, it freezes, and i cant do anything.. i gotta repower it up again.. i think i mya have to send it in again =( and now its actually just giving the red lights and wont even log me into the dashboard =( im really confused.. and i just wanna play halo and gears =/ i was so happy to get it back and now it does this to me? get outta here.. should i try the towel trick? im not sure.. they even gave me a 1 month card of live so i can get back online.. the PSU maybe? fool around with it? how do i send it in and it still doesnt work after like 3 weeks? fucking bullshit if you ask me.. excuse my language, but this is kinda retarded.. rofl.. =/ =/ please let me know if theres anything i can do in the meantime . thanks

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  219. yeah mikey same here.. mine makes an awful sound and pixles change everywhere.. then it just goes off.. but like i said cant get past red lights now =(

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  220. Mines doing the pixelated crap and the noise. I’m not getting red lights though, I get various amounts of playtime out of it sometimes a few minutes other times hours. I’m not overly sure wtf is wrong with it but after christmas break is over MS is hearin from me.

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  221. From what I’ve been seeing might be coincidence might not. I would turn the xbox on to the dashboard, do whatever for about 5-10 minutes launch my game then go about it. usually would get more time between crashes then if I just walked up turned it out and launched my game. I moved it from my room small 10 foot by 10 foot, decently cool etc etc to the living room alot more space and it seemed to work better there but still crashed. I haven’t tried the Power bring thing on the box yet. I even picked up an intercooler in hopes of fixing this. However from the looks and whatnot perhaps the GPU is overheating in the system, but thats my personal guess.

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  222. Unplugging the video cord from the back of the xbox and replugging it back in fixed the quick freezes after bootup for me. Give it a try. I had corrupt artifacts on the screen as well as loud noises coming from the speakers during the freezes.

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  223. I didnt attempt it after you made the post, my just happened to die after I had asked that question booted up cod4 and it crashed red and pink bars vertically across my screen, went to reboot and got RROD.

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  224. I got my xbox 360 this month. Couple of times my dvd-drive has stopped making that steady humming sound, and two times it has frozen to next loading screen after that. The first time this happened I exited to dashboard using my controller, but the second time the controller didn’t work. So is the problem in my dvd-drive or…?

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  225. I have had my 360 five hours and it is freezing, its pot luck where it freezes- sometimes on the dashboard (if it makes it that far!) and sometimes a couple of minutes into a game. I am taking it back to the shop for an exchange which i think is the best solution for me. Very dissapointed though as i have three friends with 360’s who have never experienced this problem

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  226. I have had my 360 for about 5 months now(which is the warranty one due to the 3 flashing lights before.)
    Anyway My 360 is freezing on the dashboard, so to fix this i unplugged everything and pluged it back, it worked for a few the froze again. so i continued the process i did before about 4 times and then i got the three flashing lights again.Wtf should i do.

    Why the hell do we pay so fucking much for these things and they dont last….. its bullshit

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  227. took mine back and got a replacement and it seems to work fine (so far!), the shop said to me though if it happens again i will need to ring the microsoft helpline before taking it back. i cant belive microsoft would even consider launching this platform without resolving this problem first.

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  228. ive had my 360 for bout a week now and its freezing. but its defferant for some games like in need for speed carbon the screen just goes black. but in assassins creed green squares pop up and i cant move. is it the same thing?

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  229. Hey guys! i got a xbox 360 elite for christmas, and i was really really skeptical about the bigger features after i had heard about all the problems.

    When i turned my xbox on, i became afraid because everything was all wierd, chunky and pixelated. I WAS SO SCARED I WOULD HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER ONE OR SEND IT IN.

    I WAS EVEN MORE SCARED THAT TO UPDATE I WOULD HAVE TO BUY XBOX LIVE.

    but, you do not need to pay for it! you can sign up for free silver version very easily.

    just plug it in, and if you do need xbox live to update, then just sign up for silver.

    [also before updating, make sure that having the xbox and its power supply all alone in an open room with a fan blowing on it, and the power supply plugged directly into a wall outlet does not help. sometimes updates can acutally make things worse, so make sure thats your last option]

    CHEERS GUYS ๐Ÿ™‚

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  230. i have troblem with my games on my xbox 360. when i turn on my spiderman 3 game it starts but it the dics would stop play and freeze.

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  231. hi guys,

    i just bought the xbox 360 from a friend of mine. at the time of purchase the console had the red lights of death. we sent it in and had it fixed.
    i went out and bought DOA4, Oblivion and Madden 2007. all the games work fine except DOA4. DOA4 initially kept on freezing once in a while, but know it wont even go passed the main menu. I took the game back and had it exchanged, but with no luck. Has anyone had this problem before?

    any kind of help would be great.

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  232. i dont have the 3 red lights of death but find it very hard to get games to start.
    i keep getting the “please insert disc into an xbox 360 ” message.
    if i open and close the tray 3 or 4 times then power off then power on again it usually runs ok .
    i was thinking that it might be a drive problem but once the game starts it runs fine.
    it seems to be taking longer and longer opening and closing the drawer til the drive speeds up and the game starts.
    i was wondering if anyone else had the same problem as i cant seem to find much info on the net about it,everyone seems to have the red lights of death.
    any information would be much appreciated.

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  233. Hello once again (unfortunately..)

    Previously I had mentioned troubles, and I had the unit swapped,, it was all good…

    Well 2 days ago the red rings of death started, so I again, swapped a console.

    Now not 20 mins into the daughter resuming Halo3 its frozen up again.

    What a joke. Feel free Mr Microsoft Xbox360 to come and take your dodgy equipment out of my home. I have almost had it.

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  234. BETAMAXX,
    We have the same error. Ours started at christmas. And what a terrible time too. I have 3 boys and they had just got rockband for xmas. it doesnt get any better, it got to the point to where i truly almost tossed the thing out the window trying to get it to start.

    husband called customer service they asked him to try and put a new game in (didn’t work on any of our games) then he asked maybe the game is scratched or dirty (Ummmm hello brand spanking new opened the other 5 my kids got for xmas to, no go) he said maybe it was just that game ( ummmm none off them work in it) the guy didnt get the concept of the error ( I maybe a blonde but please he had the gull to ask if it was an xbox 360 game i was putting in!!!!!!!!!!)he then asked if we had another xbox 360 to try the games in, why would i purchase another one if i know of all the troubles going on..
    anyway they shipped the box out with the foam packaging, packing instructions, tape, paper to fill out, mailing label and bag for the console.
    Packed it and shipped it out today.
    the man didnt deny that we were getting a refurbished one back when we asked how long will it take for the refurbished to come. so it should be here by the end of next week, im not having high hopes on the 2nd one working long.

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  235. hey i got the 3 red rings of death a couple days ago and i really didnt want to send it into MS and wait. so i looked up some alternativies….i did the blanket trick and my xbox worked fine for about 4 days, now the problem is it keeps freezing. i dont know what to do. can someone help me out here. i still got a warranty so ill probably send it to MS. but can i just take it back to walmart and have them give me a new one??? somebody help me out with some info plz

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  236. how long have u had it from wal-mart?? i dont know the exact amount of days ur able to exchange it at wal-mart. if u have the receipt and u ant had it for that long then exchange it at the store, but if thats not possable then u should send it in.

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  237. ive had it for a while. oct 06. yah i called up microsoft the other night and the lady was troubleshooting it and she said it was my power supply that was faulty. idk. ill just send it in, im getting tired of this shit

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  238. I bought my X-Box 360 about 6 months ago from a friend who didnt want it anymore. I dont have any reciept or anything, just the box with the HD, AV cables, etc. and its been working fine, until just yesterday I decided to give X-box live a go and purchased a 1-month gold membership.

    I signed up and everything and i guess X-box live took it upon itself to update my system or whatnot because now all my games are freezing after about 5-10 mins of play. My COD4 freezes now and so does my Gears of War cause of this damn x-box live (wish I never bought the damn live service.)

    Im going to call customer support tommorow but do I need anything to send it in with cause I dont have any warranty information, the book or anything. I just have the box. Does it matter? The length of time it takes to get back to me is really no concern cause im in school and havent really been playing as much but my biggest concern is knowing will they take it and fix it. I really want to know. Thanks in advance!

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  239. DLIGHT
    what you’ll need to do is ask ur friend what the purchase date is and then when you call they want a date of purchase, and your xbox serial number. since it not the ring oof death i dont know if they charge u or not, but if its still under the original warrenty then youll be fine there. off the top of my head i cant remember what the original warrenty expires, 1 year 3???? youll have to look that up. but what you’ll need is the serial, which is on the xbox, and the date of purchase, which dont have to be exact, should be a educated guess. and ur name ect.. hope this was helpful.

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  240. Thanks A LOT man. Thanks for the reply. Im going to see what they say. Thanks again. Im stuck playing my computer games so far but man I Just got that COD4 a few weeks ago and its hands down THE BEST fps i have played and Ive played video games a long time now. But yeah thanks dude.

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  241. wow yeah just a little while ago i turned on my game again (it froze as usual) and turned it off then on again and I had the red rings of death….I wonder if the xbox live has anything to do with this whole hardware failure thing going on…cause my system was fine UNTIL i signed up for it and xbox live updated my system…hmmmm…oh well. Maybe some malicious code or something in the update messed everything up. I called then and they are sending a box for me to ship it out with. Oh well.

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  242. Hey guys I need some advice and help.I just bought a xbox premium from my friend for 200 dollars cause he jus had bought a xbox elite and a ps3. He said he never had any problems and that he purchased it on may 07.Well everything seem to go well as far as games,I poppin in spiderman3 kane and lynch nba2k8 no problems or what so ever maybe I went over the limit a few time when my friends came over about 6 hours of gameplay from 2k8 to co op mission on kane and lynch.well to make a long story short I purchased a brand new copy of g.o.w. Soon as I got to the part in the beginning where the helicopter blows up I was getting hit and when I zoomed in to shoot back the system completely froze.Tried turning it off and restarted it got the 3 red lights.So I called my friends and asked did he asked this issues and was there anyway to fixed this,he said no and that the system is out of warranty and the only thing left to do was the towel trick because I’m funny about sending my stuff in.So I tried it and it surprisingly worked haven’t had no red lights but the prob is random freezes with games so I take the hard drive out and it works like brand new playing all my game without freezes do u think this could be the hard drive because he did the online thing and had numerous of games saved on there and demos and stuff can anyone give me advice what should I do ?

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  243. well if you wanted to send it in then you can, cause its still under warrnety. microsoft increased the warrenty of the red rings to three years after purchase i believe. but if it is the harddrive then you will need to reformat. but before you reformat, there is a button combination that will get ride of corrupt files on your harddrive. first go to system, then memory, then highlight harddrive (hit Y), go to device options, then highlight rename/formate (dont go into format!!), input this combination (X,X,(LB),(RB),X,X) then click continue, and hit yes, then youll be back at rename formate, this will get ride of corrupt files, they might be save files or demos, or downloads. i did this a few times and it got ride of my oblivion downloads, but it stop freezing, once i redownloaded them i was fine. this worked for me. hope this helps.

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  244. well, i got mine a long time ago 2006 i believe.
    it had been working up until about four five months ago..
    the day it broke i was soo freaking mad. i called them up wat not.
    they sent me the box. i put it in the box and then i ws un able to send it out.. so today i thought wat the heck.. i might as well see wats going on here.. pulled it out of the box, plugged it all in..got the three red lights agin. only this time i put in saints row, and it went stright to the game. played it for mabye an hour, i wwas freaking out. but then i decided oh this is boreing.. so i put in guitar hero 3. it worked fine. played that i was just too excited that i wasnt thinking about the red lights anymore. then put in forza raceing that worked too, but as soon as i put in skate. the game froze up and i was like no way. so i turn it off, agin i get the red lights. i thought hmm red all this stuff for like three hours. it would freeze before the dashboard menu.. then put in saints row agin.. the game works fine. i think its something to do with the amount of stuff going on on the xbox. dashboard stays up for hours. any all the other games work fine allmost everytime.also i think if you use the tray to turn it on, seems to have a better chance of working. may take a couple tries but works for a long time now havent shut it off in about five hours still works.
    i am going to figure out this hole mess.. couse gta four is comeing out.. i need to play it. if not im getting a ps3 or something.. good luck peoples.

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  245. Hey, my 360 Elite kept freezing. I ended up contacting Microsoft and I’m sending it in to them for them to repair it. Does anyone know what the actual repair is? Will I get the Falcon or what?? ANY help would be GREATLY appreciated.

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  246. Look guys ive got the worst case of the “red ring of death , it would at all turn on , every 100 times it will work once then freeze , i got ms’s number called them and told them bout it ,i was told event though my warranty is way up ill get a FREE REPAIR and that som1 will come pik it up and give it back fixed in a couple of weeks.

    /ps halo rules!

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  247. To Flo-

    As far as i know, your in the so called “early stages of the 3 rings of death”. The freezing typically seems to lead up to the whole 3 rings dilemma. I dont know for sure if they will send you an elite (they should if they plan to keep thier customers) but all i can say is if you havent sent it out for repairs already, try and see if you can start it up some kind of way and play the hell out of it till it does go on the fritz. Thats about it.

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  248. for some reason fifa 08 now freezes every single time on the license screen.It was gradual, a month ago if a tried again once or twice it would work, but now it wont load at all. The disc itself is flawless and can play in other 360s. Also, my 360 plays cod4 fine. I think it could be a laser eye problem but im not sure. A while back my ps2 had gradual disc loading problems and it turned out to be a laser eye problem so thats why i suspect this could be the same issue.–It could also play some discs but not others. If someone could shed some light on this or give me some tips on how to get fifa loading again it would be greatly appreciated. Oh and btw i am a starter on the #1 fifa team on gamebattles.com,and the playoffs start soon, so i cant exactly send my 360 away for 3 weeks.

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  249. Hey guys…I’m afraid I’m not going to get the answer I desire but here’s my deal. I bought my first Xbox 360 in August of last year…right out of the box…3 red rings. I took it back to the store that same week and swapped it out. I’ve had my current system every since then. It has worked like a dream. I moved it to my boyfriends house one week ago. I played on Xbox live (halo 3) just like normal. I also played Hexic HD on xbox live for about 4 hours (what I was trying to beat a record ok!) Only 2 days later I went to play Gears of War and my 360 is freezing after about a minute. Once or twice when I tried to turn it on I received the 3 red rings. I’ve moved the xbox (but not the power brick) to a different location. Should I try moving the power brick? Any other ideas? I’m hoping I don’t have to send to Microsoft. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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  250. Hi Rebekah.

    It’s not the power brick / power supply thats faulty, it’s the configuration of the internals of the Xbox.

    I have been ‘lucky’ enough to have gone through 4 return-to-the-store scenario’s and are now no longer an Xbox360 owner.

    Microsoft cannot afford to recall all the units for repair obviously so it’s basically up to you to either keep returning it for swapping for a ‘good’ unit or give it up for an alternate console/PC gaming experience.

    I chose the latter, I still have an extra controller, recharger, copy of Halo3 and a battery pack for the controller in my cabinet hoping that this bullshit scenario (excuse my language) is rectified one day..

    All the best mate.
    Tommy.

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  251. u need to be sure that there is sufficient airflow to your xbox. if there is not, there is a good chance of over heating. does it work at all now??

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  252. yeah…. i havent seen these three rings of death, but my 360 is still being a little whore and freezing, either at the title screen or whenever i sign into xobox live…its not the hard drive, because it worked on my friends xbox, its not the halo game, because it has absolutely no scratches, and its not the connection, because im using the same connection type this, its not overheating, because it is out in the open (both the power supply and 360)…so, any tips?

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  253. Are you a rep for Xbx360 LT Payne? All your help in faultfinding the ‘360, while seeming helpful, is a case of flogging a dead horse.

    The ‘360 is a dud as can be seen in this forum, and many others via google searches, which extends as far back as the consoles initial release.

    The only true long term fix is to move onto a Wii, PS3 or a PC.

    Your ‘360 may be fine now after swapping/repairing but the *known faults* will re-eventuate.

    Give up now. I have and am a lot less stressed. Also I dont feel like I burnt close to $1000 as I go myself a refund.

    your choice in the end..

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  254. Kupina,
    well then its got something to do with ur consol….at the moment i cant think of anything, give me awhile and ill repost something that will help you.

    tommy,
    no tommy to my dismay im not. but ur right it is your choice in the end, you choose to give up. i wont. i love 360 games and i will continue too through out the years untill i play the s**t out of mine. and im not putting down your theory either. the wii, ps3, and pc are very VERY good gameing consols. also the 360 does and will have bugs for as long as it will be out, also will the wii, ps3, and pc’s. pc’s uve got virsuses, overheating(which causes the life span of the overheatin parts to shorten), ect.. which if u have a good enough pc could cost lots of money. im sure the ps3 and wii have some sort of flaw that is or isnt present now, im not up to date wth those consols. but sooner or later everythin is going to be outdated and replaced with something new and improved.
    then ur right some xboxs are duds, but thats y there are warrenties, if those are u[p then around the internet there is most likely some sort of fix and or suggestion. Your also right in sayin that my “360 may be fine now after swapping/repairing but the *known faults*” cause im on my 4th consol. 2 of them had disk drive issues then one had the RROD. and thats y i am here helping, and giveing suggestion to those who need it, cause the only help i had in my cases where the arabs who answered the phone. so that is why im here, why are you here??

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    1. OK, I HAVE A SOLUTION FOR ALL OF YOU. THIS WILL COST YOU ONLY 40 BUCKS A YEAR. BUY A NEW CONSOLE AT GAMESTOP. PAY 40 BUCKS FOR A YEAR WARRANTY. YOU KNOW THAT YOU XBOX WILL HAVE PROBLEMS AT SOME POINT UNTIL THEY FIND A WAY TO FIX ALL THE CRAP. WITHIN A MONTH OF THE END OF THE ONE YEAR WARRANTY, JUST RET